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Mike



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: International Tournament Reply with quote

Sorry for posting in English - unfortunately I do not know Russian!

I am a Quasar/Q-Zar player in England and have played in Italy and Sweden on their local settings. I have also played on my home settings in the UK, Ireland, USA and Ecuador.

I would be interested in finding out the interest level of a combined tournament. The general idea I had was for teams from each country to come together and compete in multiple small tournaments on each country's home settings. So you would get to play every country on every set of settings.

I have interest from Sweden and Italy, and I would welcome contact from any other country as well, including Russia.

I would appreciate details for the settings and rules currently used in Russia to see how it compares to Italy, Sweden etc.

Thanks

Mike
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Mike, you mean, what it will be necessary to come to each of the countries and to play its options (the most widespread in the given country) arranging with that a certain tournament? Or simply wish to learn as play Russia?

The second, not a problem!) I think shortly it will be possible to hang up rules in English.

The first, the big alarm with a heap of flights and moving, almost the elevating enterprise. Under force unless with support of sponsors.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, tell, how at you the arena in Bredforde operates?

It is arena or the place for trainings is simple? (It is very similar))

Looks very funny, cheap but good!))
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Mike



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your replies, however I am struggling to understand them...

The idea would be for every team who enters to travel to a single location to play. For example, I hold it in the UK and teams from Sweden, Italy, Russia and the UK enter. Every team plays every team on all the settings over a 3 day event.

My hope is we can get between 1 and 3 teams per country to enter such an event.

The arena in Bedford has unfortunately closed as the owner wanted to concentrate on other work. We way we play there is under the same settings and general rules as Ireland, UK and USA.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, welcome to our community))

Game settings

We (Moscow) play on Q-zar 2000/Elite equipment. Any other type of lasertag will be new for us. In St. Petersburg some people also play on Lasertron equipment and even conduct tournaments but I don't know exact details.

Standard settings in Moscow are:

Type: Energise
Lifes: 10
Standard Shots: 3 shots per sec
Bonus Shots: 5 shots per sec
Bonus Shots for base: Yes
Friendly Fire: Yes
Defence Shield: Yes
Reflection: No
Generator: No
Solo: No
Bombs: No
Spies: No

In St. Petersburg setting are the same excluding
Standard Shots: 4 shots per sec
Bonus Shots: 6 shots per sec

A combined tournament is of course very interesting for us but:
1. Most of Russian Q-zar players are students who do not have enough money to participate in an event on UK territory
2. We need some practice in other Lasertags to compete with you))

Still I believe that it is possible for our community to organize a team and participate in such an event.
Can you tell us the settings and rules for each kind of game and also give us an approximation of possible budget for the trip (we can estimate airplane tickets costs ourselves).

Kind regards,

Andrey
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Mike



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that you have different settings between locations. Do you think yourselves and St. Petersburg would even agree to a single format?

I am not intending this to run soon. I was thinking of holding this sometime next year, no earlier than May possibly as late as September 2010. This should give even poor students time to save up - but I do agree it isn't a cheap thing to do.

The length of time allows everyone to practice on the alternate settings and get an idea of the games that will be played.

As a rough guide from memory, the settings played are as follows:

Sweden

Type: Energise
Lives: 20
Standard Shots: 6 shots per sec
Bonus Shots: 6 shots per sec
Bonus shots for Base: No
Friendly Fire: Yes
Defence Shield: Yes
Reflex Shot: No
Lethal Generator: Yes
Solo: No
Bombs: No
Spies: No

Italy
Type: Energise
Lives: 8
Standard Shots: 3 shots per sec
Bonus Shots: 5 shots per sec
Bonus shots for Base: Yes
Friendly Fire: Yes
Defence Shield: Yes
Reflex Shot: Yes
Lethal Generator:
Solo: No
Bombs: 3
Spies: No

UK/Ireland/USA
Type: Supercharge
Lives 6
Standard Shots: 1 shot per sec
Bonus shots: n/a
Friendly Fire: Yes
Defence Shield: Yes
Reflex Shot: Yes
Lethal Generator: No
Solo: No
Bombs: No
Spies: No

The event would have some time constraints - playing everyone on every format takes a lot of time. Ideally I'd like to limit the event to three formats, but that depends on the interest levels from different countries.

I would need every interest country to provide their official settings and rules before I could set a tournament date. I would then need teams to confirm attendance by a certain deadline to enable the event length to be set.

Some rules I know will be different between countries. For example Italy has a no following rule, while Sweden has "safe" zones. The UK allows covering almost anyway you could wish, while Sweden allows covering except for the barrel of the gun.

Approximate costs would be: £25 per night per person for accommodation, although if I shop around and if we pick the right time of year we may be able to reduce this cost. I'd be willing to transport people to/from nearby airports so that will save on costs. The event itself would be around £40 to £50 depending on the length and number of teams. The event would probably be 3 days long.

As I said, it is a long way off, but I wanted to get interest levels from different countries.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically we support the idea, costs are not too big. So let's keep in touch, we will discuss in between ourselves for the time being.

We have different setup in Moscow/Peterburg due to various quality of equipment. In Peterburg it is almost perfect...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we were to go ahead and run the event it would be at a centre where I have control over the equipment. This means I would ensure it was in 100% working order and very good quality.

We use the real Quasar equipment, not the Quasar Elite stuff. They are the traditional Red and Green colours with the larger black gun. It would be the same timing and gun software as the Quasar Elite equipment though.

Forgot to mention the food side of things, you can get by eating for around £5 per day if you eat cheaply from a supermarket, although for comparison a typical McDonalds here is about £4. Not sure how all that compares to Russian money and income.

If you could provide the agreed Russian national standard of tournament settings and rules, and perhaps a basic play style description that would be a great start.

Getting an idea for interest levels is my initial start point to see if there would be enough people who would go for an event such as this. My aim would be at least two teams from each country, possibly from different locations.

What size teams do you normally play with?

Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea Entry visas can be a problem
Idea Могут быть проблемы с визами
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true, but hopefully attending an organised event would make the visa requirement easier. It would require a fair bit of planning.... I'm not sure of the entry requirements for Russians entering the UK.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
Very true, but hopefully attending an organised event would make the visa requirement easier. It would require a fair bit of planning.... I'm not sure of the entry requirements for Russians entering the UK.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Javert wrote:
I am not very hot on visas, but my gut feel is that it would be easier to arrange a tourist visa to Russia on regular grounds like sightseeing, as q-zar might seem alien and clandestine to Russian consulates. And I seriously doubt they will accept the credentials of a Q-zar Championship Invitation.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Javert wrote:
Mike wrote:
Very true, but hopefully attending an organised event would make the visa requirement easier. It would require a fair bit of planning.... I'm not sure of the entry requirements for Russians entering the UK.


I am not very hot on visas, but my gut feel is that it would be easier to arrange a tourist visa to Russia on regular grounds like sightseeing, as q-zar might seem alien and clandestine to Russian consulates. And I seriously doubt they will accept the credentials of a Q-zar Championship Invitation.


By the way the topic was about possible problems for Russians to obtain UK visa
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: International Tournament Reply with quote

Basically we support the idea, costs are not too big. So let's keep in touch, we will discuss in between ourselves for the time being.

We have different setup in Moscow/Peterburg due to various quality of equipment. In Peterburg it is almost perfect...
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